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    <description>Welcome to Salt City Code, the podcast that aims to bridge the gap and foster connections within the tech community in Syracuse, NY and beyond. Hosted by Karin Thorne and Kaitlyn Warboy, this podcast dives deep into the world of technology and coding, exploring the diverse perspectives and experiences of local tech leaders.
In each episode, Karin and Kaitlyn invite a range of guests, from tech enthusiasts to seasoned professionals, to share their insights, knowledge, and stories. Through engaging conversations, they uncover the unique aspects that make technology and coding an integral part of the vibrant Salt City community.
Listeners can expect to hear discussions about emerging technologies, innovative projects, and the latest trends shaping the tech landscape. They also explore the impact of technology on various industries and discuss the opportunities and challenges it brings.
Whether you're an aspiring coder, a tech professional, or simply curious about the ever-evolving world of technology, Salt City Code offers valuable insights, practical advice, and inspiring stories. Join Karin and Kaitlyn as they connect with the local tech scene, provide a platform for sharing expertise, and inspire the growth and collaboration of the tech community in Syracuse and beyond.
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    <itunes:summary>Welcome to Salt City Code, the podcast that aims to bridge the gap and foster connections within the tech community in Syracuse, NY and beyond. Hosted by Karin Thorne and Kaitlyn Warboy, this podcast dives deep into the world of technology and coding, exploring the diverse perspectives and experiences of local tech leaders.
In each episode, Karin and Kaitlyn invite a range of guests, from tech enthusiasts to seasoned professionals, to share their insights, knowledge, and stories. Through engaging conversations, they uncover the unique aspects that make technology and coding an integral part of the vibrant Salt City community.
Listeners can expect to hear discussions about emerging technologies, innovative projects, and the latest trends shaping the tech landscape. They also explore the impact of technology on various industries and discuss the opportunities and challenges it brings.
Whether you're an aspiring coder, a tech professional, or simply curious about the ever-evolving world of technology, Salt City Code offers valuable insights, practical advice, and inspiring stories. Join Karin and Kaitlyn as they connect with the local tech scene, provide a platform for sharing expertise, and inspire the growth and collaboration of the tech community in Syracuse and beyond.
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  <title>Ryan Gaus: Open Source Success</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Hosts Karin Thorne and Kelly Corey continue the conversation with Ryan Gaus and discuss the success of his open source project, Backstroke. We also chat about where to host your projects online and Ryan tells about what he's building in his workshop.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt;  &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;If you have a mixture of getting lucky and have a little bit of talent at doing this sort of stuff, you could have an idea that maybe has some success. And I'll say, if you roll a die enough times, you'll at least get a minor success.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Hosts Karin Thorne and Kelly Corey continue the conversation with Ryan Gaus and discuss the success of his open source project, Backstroke. We also chat about where to host your projects online and Ryan tells about what he's building in his workshop. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This episode is part VI of our series: &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Catching Up with Careers in Code&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;! We chat with founders, instructors/TAs, and students of the first CiC cohort about their experience and where they'd like to see the program go in the future.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Connect with Ryan&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="https://rgaus.net/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;rgaus.net&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-gaus-08068617b/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="https://instagram.com/rgausgaus" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/rgausnet" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Twitter &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Episode References&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="https://github.com/backstrokeapp/server" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Backstroke&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="https://makezine.com/2016/04/01/what-is-a-maker-you-are/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Adam Savage's Definition of Maker&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Special Announcement&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As of April 7, 2020, Salt City Code will be switching from a weekly to a biweekly episode format. Karin and Kelly feel this will be the best way to balance our personal and professional lives while continuing to run the podcast. Thank you all so much for listening and sharing your tech journeys with us!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Music&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This episode features &lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Mela/Mela_two" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;"Brain Power" by Mela&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; from the album &lt;em&gt;Mela two&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Follow Karin&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.kethorne.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;kethorne.com&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/kaythorne" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/karin_thorne/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="mailto:contact@kethorne.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;E-mail&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;JSWebb Development, LLC&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="https://jswebbdevelopment.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;jswebbdevelopment.com&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/JSWebb_Dev" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/jswebbdev/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="mailto:jswebbdevelopment@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;E-mail&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Follow Kelly&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="https://kell.dev/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;kell.dev&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/kellytoearth" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/kellytoearth/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="mailto:hello@kell.dev" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;E-mail&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Follow Salt City Code&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/saltcitycode" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/saltcitycode/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="mailto:saltcitycode@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;E-mail&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;--- Special Guest: Ryan Gaus.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p><em><strong>If you have a mixture of getting lucky and have a little bit of talent at doing this sort of stuff, you could have an idea that maybe has some success. And I&#39;ll say, if you roll a die enough times, you&#39;ll at least get a minor success.</strong></em></p>
</blockquote>

<hr>

<p>Hosts Karin Thorne and Kelly Corey continue the conversation with Ryan Gaus and discuss the success of his open source project, Backstroke. We also chat about where to host your projects online and Ryan tells about what he&#39;s building in his workshop. </p>

<hr>

<p>This episode is part VI of our series: <em><strong>Catching Up with Careers in Code</strong></em>! We chat with founders, instructors/TAs, and students of the first CiC cohort about their experience and where they&#39;d like to see the program go in the future.</p>

<hr>

<h3>Connect with Ryan</h3>

<p><strong><a href="https://rgaus.net/" rel="nofollow">rgaus.net</a> | <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-gaus-08068617b/" rel="nofollow">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://instagram.com/rgausgaus" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/rgausnet" rel="nofollow">Twitter </a></strong></p>

<hr>

<h3>Episode References</h3>

<p><strong><a href="https://github.com/backstrokeapp/server" rel="nofollow">Backstroke</a> | <a href="https://makezine.com/2016/04/01/what-is-a-maker-you-are/" rel="nofollow">Adam Savage&#39;s Definition of Maker</a></strong></p>

<hr>

<h3>Special Announcement</h3>

<p>As of April 7, 2020, Salt City Code will be switching from a weekly to a biweekly episode format. Karin and Kelly feel this will be the best way to balance our personal and professional lives while continuing to run the podcast. Thank you all so much for listening and sharing your tech journeys with us!</p>

<hr>

<h3>Music</h3>

<p>This episode features <strong><a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Mela/Mela_two" rel="nofollow">&quot;Brain Power&quot; by Mela</a></strong> from the album <em>Mela two</em>.</p>

<hr>

<h3>Follow Karin</h3>

<p><strong><a href="http://www.kethorne.com/" rel="nofollow">kethorne.com</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/kaythorne" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/karin_thorne/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a> | <a href="mailto:contact@kethorne.com" rel="nofollow">E-mail</a></strong></p>

<hr>

<h3>JSWebb Development, LLC</h3>

<p><strong><a href="https://jswebbdevelopment.com/" rel="nofollow">jswebbdevelopment.com</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/JSWebb_Dev" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jswebbdev/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a> | <a href="mailto:jswebbdevelopment@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">E-mail</a></strong></p>

<hr>

<h3>Follow Kelly</h3>

<p><strong><a href="https://kell.dev/" rel="nofollow">kell.dev</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/kellytoearth" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/kellytoearth/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a> | <a href="mailto:hello@kell.dev" rel="nofollow">E-mail</a></strong></p>

<hr>

<h3>Follow Salt City Code</h3>

<p><strong><a href="https://twitter.com/saltcitycode" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/saltcitycode/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a> | <a href="mailto:saltcitycode@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">E-mail</a></strong></p>

<hr><p>Special Guest: Ryan Gaus.</p><p>Sponsored By:</p><ul><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://hackupstate.com/home">Hack Upstate</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://hackupstate.com/home">Special thanks to our sponsor Hack Upstate! Visit hackupstate.com to learn more about upcoming hackathons and get ready to code!</a></li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://syracusecoworks.com/">Syracuse CoWorks</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://syracusecoworks.com/">We'd like to thank Syracuse CoWorks for supporting Salt City Code! Their recording booth is perfect for all your podcast needs. Visit syracusecoworks.com for more information and apply for a membership now!</a></li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://careersincode.org/">Hack Upstate</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://careersincode.org/">Interested in becoming a full-stack web developer? Sign up for the Cohort 2 waitlist and the mailing list at Careers in Code for information on upcoming events and job opportunities!</a></li></ul>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<blockquote>
<p><em><strong>If you have a mixture of getting lucky and have a little bit of talent at doing this sort of stuff, you could have an idea that maybe has some success. And I&#39;ll say, if you roll a die enough times, you&#39;ll at least get a minor success.</strong></em></p>
</blockquote>

<hr>

<p>Hosts Karin Thorne and Kelly Corey continue the conversation with Ryan Gaus and discuss the success of his open source project, Backstroke. We also chat about where to host your projects online and Ryan tells about what he&#39;s building in his workshop. </p>

<hr>

<p>This episode is part VI of our series: <em><strong>Catching Up with Careers in Code</strong></em>! We chat with founders, instructors/TAs, and students of the first CiC cohort about their experience and where they&#39;d like to see the program go in the future.</p>

<hr>

<h3>Connect with Ryan</h3>

<p><strong><a href="https://rgaus.net/" rel="nofollow">rgaus.net</a> | <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-gaus-08068617b/" rel="nofollow">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://instagram.com/rgausgaus" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/rgausnet" rel="nofollow">Twitter </a></strong></p>

<hr>

<h3>Episode References</h3>

<p><strong><a href="https://github.com/backstrokeapp/server" rel="nofollow">Backstroke</a> | <a href="https://makezine.com/2016/04/01/what-is-a-maker-you-are/" rel="nofollow">Adam Savage&#39;s Definition of Maker</a></strong></p>

<hr>

<h3>Special Announcement</h3>

<p>As of April 7, 2020, Salt City Code will be switching from a weekly to a biweekly episode format. Karin and Kelly feel this will be the best way to balance our personal and professional lives while continuing to run the podcast. Thank you all so much for listening and sharing your tech journeys with us!</p>

<hr>

<h3>Music</h3>

<p>This episode features <strong><a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Mela/Mela_two" rel="nofollow">&quot;Brain Power&quot; by Mela</a></strong> from the album <em>Mela two</em>.</p>

<hr>

<h3>Follow Karin</h3>

<p><strong><a href="http://www.kethorne.com/" rel="nofollow">kethorne.com</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/kaythorne" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/karin_thorne/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a> | <a href="mailto:contact@kethorne.com" rel="nofollow">E-mail</a></strong></p>

<hr>

<h3>JSWebb Development, LLC</h3>

<p><strong><a href="https://jswebbdevelopment.com/" rel="nofollow">jswebbdevelopment.com</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/JSWebb_Dev" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jswebbdev/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a> | <a href="mailto:jswebbdevelopment@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">E-mail</a></strong></p>

<hr>

<h3>Follow Kelly</h3>

<p><strong><a href="https://kell.dev/" rel="nofollow">kell.dev</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/kellytoearth" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/kellytoearth/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a> | <a href="mailto:hello@kell.dev" rel="nofollow">E-mail</a></strong></p>

<hr>

<h3>Follow Salt City Code</h3>

<p><strong><a href="https://twitter.com/saltcitycode" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/saltcitycode/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a> | <a href="mailto:saltcitycode@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">E-mail</a></strong></p>

<hr><p>Special Guest: Ryan Gaus.</p><p>Sponsored By:</p><ul><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://hackupstate.com/home">Hack Upstate</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://hackupstate.com/home">Special thanks to our sponsor Hack Upstate! Visit hackupstate.com to learn more about upcoming hackathons and get ready to code!</a></li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://syracusecoworks.com/">Syracuse CoWorks</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://syracusecoworks.com/">We'd like to thank Syracuse CoWorks for supporting Salt City Code! Their recording booth is perfect for all your podcast needs. Visit syracusecoworks.com for more information and apply for a membership now!</a></li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://careersincode.org/">Hack Upstate</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://careersincode.org/">Interested in becoming a full-stack web developer? Sign up for the Cohort 2 waitlist and the mailing list at Careers in Code for information on upcoming events and job opportunities!</a></li></ul>]]>
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  <title>Ryan Gaus: Affect Your Surroundings</title>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2020 17:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Salt City Code</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Hosts Karin Thorne and Kelly Corey chat with Ryan Gaus about choosing to work for a software company instead of going to college, his experience teaching at Careers in Code, and his journey as a self-taught developer.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>45:15</itunes:duration>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt;  &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;I would say using teaching as a way to get better at something is a really good approach. And I would say that if you don't have a lot of knowledge, you shouldn't think you can't teach. I'm very much a proponent of ... being able to take ideas you have and using them to kind of affect your surroundings. And I think that teaching is a great way to do that.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Hosts Karin Thorne and Kelly Corey chat with Ryan Gaus about choosing to work for a software company instead of going to college, his experience teaching at Careers in Code, and his journey as a self-taught developer. Ryan also shouts out some past attendees of the OpenHack Meetup and talks to us about a cool project he's working on with his mom.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This episode is part V of our series: &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Catching Up with Careers in Code&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;! We chat with founders, instructors/TAs, and students of the first CiC cohort about their experience and where they'd like to see the program go in the future.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Connect with Ryan&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="https://rgaus.net/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;rgaus.net&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-gaus-08068617b/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="https://instagram.com/rgausgaus" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/rgausnet" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Twitter &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Episode References&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.strandbeest.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Strandbeest&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/mathematics/18-06-linear-algebra-spring-2010/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Linear Algebra course on MITOpenCourseware&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Special Announcement&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As of April 7, 2020, Salt City Code will be switching from a weekly to a biweekly episode format. Karin and Kelly feel this will be the best way to balance our personal and professional lives while continuing to run the podcast. Thank you all so much for listening and sharing your tech journeys with us!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Music&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This episode features &lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Mela/Mela_two" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;"Brain Power" by Mela&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; from the album &lt;em&gt;Mela two&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Follow Karin&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.kethorne.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;kethorne.com&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/kaythorne" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/karin_thorne/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="mailto:contact@kethorne.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;E-mail&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;JSWebb Development, LLC&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="https://jswebbdevelopment.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;jswebbdevelopment.com&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/JSWebb_Dev" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/jswebbdev/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="mailto:jswebbdevelopment@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;E-mail&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Follow Kelly&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="https://kell.dev/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;kell.dev&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/kellytoearth" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/kellytoearth/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="mailto:hello@kell.dev" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;E-mail&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Follow Salt City Code&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/saltcitycode" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/saltcitycode/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="mailto:saltcitycode@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;E-mail&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;--- Special Guest: Ryan Gaus.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p><em><strong>I would say using teaching as a way to get better at something is a really good approach. And I would say that if you don&#39;t have a lot of knowledge, you shouldn&#39;t think you can&#39;t teach. I&#39;m very much a proponent of ... being able to take ideas you have and using them to kind of affect your surroundings. And I think that teaching is a great way to do that.</strong></em></p>
</blockquote>

<hr>

<p>Hosts Karin Thorne and Kelly Corey chat with Ryan Gaus about choosing to work for a software company instead of going to college, his experience teaching at Careers in Code, and his journey as a self-taught developer. Ryan also shouts out some past attendees of the OpenHack Meetup and talks to us about a cool project he&#39;s working on with his mom.</p>

<hr>

<p>This episode is part V of our series: <em><strong>Catching Up with Careers in Code</strong></em>! We chat with founders, instructors/TAs, and students of the first CiC cohort about their experience and where they&#39;d like to see the program go in the future.</p>

<hr>

<h3>Connect with Ryan</h3>

<p><strong><a href="https://rgaus.net/" rel="nofollow">rgaus.net</a> | <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-gaus-08068617b/" rel="nofollow">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://instagram.com/rgausgaus" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/rgausnet" rel="nofollow">Twitter </a></strong></p>

<hr>

<h3>Episode References</h3>

<p><strong><a href="https://www.strandbeest.com/" rel="nofollow">Strandbeest</a> | <a href="https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/mathematics/18-06-linear-algebra-spring-2010/" rel="nofollow">Linear Algebra course on MITOpenCourseware</a></strong></p>

<hr>

<h3>Special Announcement</h3>

<p>As of April 7, 2020, Salt City Code will be switching from a weekly to a biweekly episode format. Karin and Kelly feel this will be the best way to balance our personal and professional lives while continuing to run the podcast. Thank you all so much for listening and sharing your tech journeys with us!</p>

<hr>

<h3>Music</h3>

<p>This episode features <strong><a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Mela/Mela_two" rel="nofollow">&quot;Brain Power&quot; by Mela</a></strong> from the album <em>Mela two</em>.</p>

<hr>

<h3>Follow Karin</h3>

<p><strong><a href="http://www.kethorne.com/" rel="nofollow">kethorne.com</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/kaythorne" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/karin_thorne/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a> | <a href="mailto:contact@kethorne.com" rel="nofollow">E-mail</a></strong></p>

<hr>

<h3>JSWebb Development, LLC</h3>

<p><strong><a href="https://jswebbdevelopment.com/" rel="nofollow">jswebbdevelopment.com</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/JSWebb_Dev" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jswebbdev/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a> | <a href="mailto:jswebbdevelopment@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">E-mail</a></strong></p>

<hr>

<h3>Follow Kelly</h3>

<p><strong><a href="https://kell.dev/" rel="nofollow">kell.dev</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/kellytoearth" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/kellytoearth/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a> | <a href="mailto:hello@kell.dev" rel="nofollow">E-mail</a></strong></p>

<hr>

<h3>Follow Salt City Code</h3>

<p><strong><a href="https://twitter.com/saltcitycode" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/saltcitycode/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a> | <a href="mailto:saltcitycode@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">E-mail</a></strong></p>

<hr><p>Special Guest: Ryan Gaus.</p><p>Sponsored By:</p><ul><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://hackupstate.com/home">Hack Upstate</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://hackupstate.com/home">Special thanks to our sponsor Hack Upstate! Visit hackupstate.com to learn more about upcoming hackathons and get ready to code!</a></li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://syracusecoworks.com/">Syracuse CoWorks</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://syracusecoworks.com/">We'd like to thank Syracuse CoWorks for supporting Salt City Code! Their recording booth is perfect for all your podcast needs. Visit syracusecoworks.com for more information and apply for a membership now!</a></li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://careersincode.org/">Hack Upstate</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://careersincode.org/">Interested in becoming a full-stack web developer? Sign up for the Cohort 2 waitlist and the mailing list at Careers in Code for information on upcoming events and job opportunities!</a></li></ul>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<blockquote>
<p><em><strong>I would say using teaching as a way to get better at something is a really good approach. And I would say that if you don&#39;t have a lot of knowledge, you shouldn&#39;t think you can&#39;t teach. I&#39;m very much a proponent of ... being able to take ideas you have and using them to kind of affect your surroundings. And I think that teaching is a great way to do that.</strong></em></p>
</blockquote>

<hr>

<p>Hosts Karin Thorne and Kelly Corey chat with Ryan Gaus about choosing to work for a software company instead of going to college, his experience teaching at Careers in Code, and his journey as a self-taught developer. Ryan also shouts out some past attendees of the OpenHack Meetup and talks to us about a cool project he&#39;s working on with his mom.</p>

<hr>

<p>This episode is part V of our series: <em><strong>Catching Up with Careers in Code</strong></em>! We chat with founders, instructors/TAs, and students of the first CiC cohort about their experience and where they&#39;d like to see the program go in the future.</p>

<hr>

<h3>Connect with Ryan</h3>

<p><strong><a href="https://rgaus.net/" rel="nofollow">rgaus.net</a> | <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-gaus-08068617b/" rel="nofollow">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://instagram.com/rgausgaus" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/rgausnet" rel="nofollow">Twitter </a></strong></p>

<hr>

<h3>Episode References</h3>

<p><strong><a href="https://www.strandbeest.com/" rel="nofollow">Strandbeest</a> | <a href="https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/mathematics/18-06-linear-algebra-spring-2010/" rel="nofollow">Linear Algebra course on MITOpenCourseware</a></strong></p>

<hr>

<h3>Special Announcement</h3>

<p>As of April 7, 2020, Salt City Code will be switching from a weekly to a biweekly episode format. Karin and Kelly feel this will be the best way to balance our personal and professional lives while continuing to run the podcast. Thank you all so much for listening and sharing your tech journeys with us!</p>

<hr>

<h3>Music</h3>

<p>This episode features <strong><a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Mela/Mela_two" rel="nofollow">&quot;Brain Power&quot; by Mela</a></strong> from the album <em>Mela two</em>.</p>

<hr>

<h3>Follow Karin</h3>

<p><strong><a href="http://www.kethorne.com/" rel="nofollow">kethorne.com</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/kaythorne" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/karin_thorne/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a> | <a href="mailto:contact@kethorne.com" rel="nofollow">E-mail</a></strong></p>

<hr>

<h3>JSWebb Development, LLC</h3>

<p><strong><a href="https://jswebbdevelopment.com/" rel="nofollow">jswebbdevelopment.com</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/JSWebb_Dev" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jswebbdev/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a> | <a href="mailto:jswebbdevelopment@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">E-mail</a></strong></p>

<hr>

<h3>Follow Kelly</h3>

<p><strong><a href="https://kell.dev/" rel="nofollow">kell.dev</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/kellytoearth" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/kellytoearth/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a> | <a href="mailto:hello@kell.dev" rel="nofollow">E-mail</a></strong></p>

<hr>

<h3>Follow Salt City Code</h3>

<p><strong><a href="https://twitter.com/saltcitycode" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/saltcitycode/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a> | <a href="mailto:saltcitycode@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">E-mail</a></strong></p>

<hr><p>Special Guest: Ryan Gaus.</p><p>Sponsored By:</p><ul><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://hackupstate.com/home">Hack Upstate</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://hackupstate.com/home">Special thanks to our sponsor Hack Upstate! Visit hackupstate.com to learn more about upcoming hackathons and get ready to code!</a></li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://syracusecoworks.com/">Syracuse CoWorks</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://syracusecoworks.com/">We'd like to thank Syracuse CoWorks for supporting Salt City Code! Their recording booth is perfect for all your podcast needs. Visit syracusecoworks.com for more information and apply for a membership now!</a></li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://careersincode.org/">Hack Upstate</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://careersincode.org/">Interested in becoming a full-stack web developer? Sign up for the Cohort 2 waitlist and the mailing list at Careers in Code for information on upcoming events and job opportunities!</a></li></ul>]]>
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  <title>Max Matthews: Work Backwards</title>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2020 17:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Salt City Code</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Hosts Karin Thorne and Kelly Corey continue their conversation with Max Matthews and take a deeper dive into his experiences teaching at Start Fast Code and Careers in Code.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt;  &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;My big advice is...work backwards. Because it's so easy to learn all these tiny little concepts in programming. And it's cool and you're excited while you're doing it but at the end of the day, it's not an end result. And so, my big advice is have your end goal. Figure out where you want to end up and then work your way backwards from there.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Hosts Karin Thorne and Kelly Corey continue their conversation with Max Matthews and take a deeper dive into his experiences teaching at Start Fast Code and Careers in Code. Max shares his advice for someone looking to get started in programming and how to find a mentor to help along the way.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This episode is part IV of our series: &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Catching Up with Careers in Code&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;! We chat with founders, instructors/TAs, and students of the first CiC cohort about their experience and where they'd like to see the program go in the future.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Connect with Max&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="https://maxmatthe.ws" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;maxmatthe.ws&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/maxzmatthews/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/@teckno101" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="https://medium.maxmatthe.ws/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Medium&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="https://wearetuzag.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Tuzag&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Mentorship&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Are you looking for a mentor to help improve your skills as a developer? Fill out the Contact form at &lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="https://maxmatthe.ws/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;maxmatthe.ws&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; and Max will be happy to chat with you!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Music&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This episode features &lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Mela/Mela_two" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;"Brain Power" by Mela&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; from the album &lt;em&gt;Mela two&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Follow Karin&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.kethorne.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;kethorne.com&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/kaythorne" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/karin_thorne/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="mailto:contact@kethorne.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;E-mail&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;JSWebb Development, LLC&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="https://jswebbdevelopment.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;jswebbdevelopment.com&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/JSWebb_Dev" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/jswebbdev/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="mailto:jswebbdevelopment@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;E-mail&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Follow Kelly&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="https://kell.dev/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;kell.dev&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/kellytoearth" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/kellytoearth/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="mailto:hello@kell.dev" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;E-mail&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Follow Salt City Code&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/saltcitycode" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/saltcitycode/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="mailto:saltcitycode@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;E-mail&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;--- Special Guest: Max Matthews.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p><em><strong>My big advice is...work backwards. Because it&#39;s so easy to learn all these tiny little concepts in programming. And it&#39;s cool and you&#39;re excited while you&#39;re doing it but at the end of the day, it&#39;s not an end result. And so, my big advice is have your end goal. Figure out where you want to end up and then work your way backwards from there.</strong></em></p>
</blockquote>

<p>Hosts Karin Thorne and Kelly Corey continue their conversation with Max Matthews and take a deeper dive into his experiences teaching at Start Fast Code and Careers in Code. Max shares his advice for someone looking to get started in programming and how to find a mentor to help along the way.</p>

<hr>

<p>This episode is part IV of our series: <em><strong>Catching Up with Careers in Code</strong></em>! We chat with founders, instructors/TAs, and students of the first CiC cohort about their experience and where they&#39;d like to see the program go in the future.</p>

<hr>

<h3>Connect with Max</h3>

<p><strong><a href="https://maxmatthe.ws" rel="nofollow">maxmatthe.ws</a> | <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/maxzmatthews/" rel="nofollow">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/@teckno101" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a> | <a href="https://medium.maxmatthe.ws/" rel="nofollow">Medium</a> | <a href="https://wearetuzag.com/" rel="nofollow">Tuzag</a></strong></p>

<hr>

<h3>Mentorship</h3>

<p>Are you looking for a mentor to help improve your skills as a developer? Fill out the Contact form at <strong><a href="https://maxmatthe.ws/" rel="nofollow">maxmatthe.ws</a></strong> and Max will be happy to chat with you!</p>

<hr>

<h3>Music</h3>

<p>This episode features <strong><a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Mela/Mela_two" rel="nofollow">&quot;Brain Power&quot; by Mela</a></strong> from the album <em>Mela two</em>.</p>

<hr>

<h3>Follow Karin</h3>

<p><strong><a href="http://www.kethorne.com/" rel="nofollow">kethorne.com</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/kaythorne" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/karin_thorne/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a> | <a href="mailto:contact@kethorne.com" rel="nofollow">E-mail</a></strong></p>

<hr>

<h3>JSWebb Development, LLC</h3>

<p><strong><a href="https://jswebbdevelopment.com/" rel="nofollow">jswebbdevelopment.com</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/JSWebb_Dev" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jswebbdev/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a> | <a href="mailto:jswebbdevelopment@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">E-mail</a></strong></p>

<hr>

<h3>Follow Kelly</h3>

<p><strong><a href="https://kell.dev/" rel="nofollow">kell.dev</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/kellytoearth" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/kellytoearth/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a> | <a href="mailto:hello@kell.dev" rel="nofollow">E-mail</a></strong></p>

<hr>

<h3>Follow Salt City Code</h3>

<p><strong><a href="https://twitter.com/saltcitycode" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/saltcitycode/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a> | <a href="mailto:saltcitycode@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">E-mail</a></strong></p>

<hr><p>Special Guest: Max Matthews.</p><p>Sponsored By:</p><ul><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://hackupstate.com/home">Hack Upstate</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://hackupstate.com/home">Special thanks to our sponsor Hack Upstate! Visit hackupstate.com to learn more about upcoming hackathons and get ready to code!</a></li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://syracusecoworks.com/">Syracuse CoWorks</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://syracusecoworks.com/">We'd like to thank Syracuse CoWorks for supporting Salt City Code! Their recording booth is perfect for all your podcast needs. Visit syracusecoworks.com for more information and apply for a membership now!</a></li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://careersincode.org/">Hack Upstate</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://careersincode.org/">Interested in becoming a full-stack web developer? Sign up for the Cohort 2 waitlist and the mailing list at Careers in Code for information on upcoming events and job opportunities!</a></li></ul>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<blockquote>
<p><em><strong>My big advice is...work backwards. Because it&#39;s so easy to learn all these tiny little concepts in programming. And it&#39;s cool and you&#39;re excited while you&#39;re doing it but at the end of the day, it&#39;s not an end result. And so, my big advice is have your end goal. Figure out where you want to end up and then work your way backwards from there.</strong></em></p>
</blockquote>

<p>Hosts Karin Thorne and Kelly Corey continue their conversation with Max Matthews and take a deeper dive into his experiences teaching at Start Fast Code and Careers in Code. Max shares his advice for someone looking to get started in programming and how to find a mentor to help along the way.</p>

<hr>

<p>This episode is part IV of our series: <em><strong>Catching Up with Careers in Code</strong></em>! We chat with founders, instructors/TAs, and students of the first CiC cohort about their experience and where they&#39;d like to see the program go in the future.</p>

<hr>

<h3>Connect with Max</h3>

<p><strong><a href="https://maxmatthe.ws" rel="nofollow">maxmatthe.ws</a> | <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/maxzmatthews/" rel="nofollow">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/@teckno101" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a> | <a href="https://medium.maxmatthe.ws/" rel="nofollow">Medium</a> | <a href="https://wearetuzag.com/" rel="nofollow">Tuzag</a></strong></p>

<hr>

<h3>Mentorship</h3>

<p>Are you looking for a mentor to help improve your skills as a developer? Fill out the Contact form at <strong><a href="https://maxmatthe.ws/" rel="nofollow">maxmatthe.ws</a></strong> and Max will be happy to chat with you!</p>

<hr>

<h3>Music</h3>

<p>This episode features <strong><a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Mela/Mela_two" rel="nofollow">&quot;Brain Power&quot; by Mela</a></strong> from the album <em>Mela two</em>.</p>

<hr>

<h3>Follow Karin</h3>

<p><strong><a href="http://www.kethorne.com/" rel="nofollow">kethorne.com</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/kaythorne" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/karin_thorne/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a> | <a href="mailto:contact@kethorne.com" rel="nofollow">E-mail</a></strong></p>

<hr>

<h3>JSWebb Development, LLC</h3>

<p><strong><a href="https://jswebbdevelopment.com/" rel="nofollow">jswebbdevelopment.com</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/JSWebb_Dev" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jswebbdev/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a> | <a href="mailto:jswebbdevelopment@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">E-mail</a></strong></p>

<hr>

<h3>Follow Kelly</h3>

<p><strong><a href="https://kell.dev/" rel="nofollow">kell.dev</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/kellytoearth" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/kellytoearth/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a> | <a href="mailto:hello@kell.dev" rel="nofollow">E-mail</a></strong></p>

<hr>

<h3>Follow Salt City Code</h3>

<p><strong><a href="https://twitter.com/saltcitycode" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/saltcitycode/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a> | <a href="mailto:saltcitycode@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">E-mail</a></strong></p>

<hr><p>Special Guest: Max Matthews.</p><p>Sponsored By:</p><ul><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://hackupstate.com/home">Hack Upstate</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://hackupstate.com/home">Special thanks to our sponsor Hack Upstate! Visit hackupstate.com to learn more about upcoming hackathons and get ready to code!</a></li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://syracusecoworks.com/">Syracuse CoWorks</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://syracusecoworks.com/">We'd like to thank Syracuse CoWorks for supporting Salt City Code! Their recording booth is perfect for all your podcast needs. Visit syracusecoworks.com for more information and apply for a membership now!</a></li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://careersincode.org/">Hack Upstate</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://careersincode.org/">Interested in becoming a full-stack web developer? Sign up for the Cohort 2 waitlist and the mailing list at Careers in Code for information on upcoming events and job opportunities!</a></li></ul>]]>
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  <title>Max Matthews: Hacker, Entrepreneur, Mentor</title>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2020 18:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Salt City Code</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Hosts Karin Thorne and Kelly Corey chat with Max Matthews about his experience incorporating a business at age 16, what he considers to be the difference between a developer and an engineer, and what it's like to be on both sides of the self-taught/formal education divide in tech.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt;  &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;I think a lot of people, when they hear "hacker", they think cybersecurity or issues on their phone. Really, the original term "hacker" was someone who solved problems and just threw things together to fix something.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Hosts Karin Thorne and Kelly Corey chat with Max Matthews about his experience incorporating a business at age 16, what he considers to be the difference between a developer and an engineer, and what it's like to be on both sides of the self-taught/formal education divide in tech. We also dive into Max's stints working as an instructor for local tech bootcamps Start Fast Code and Careers in Code. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This episode is part III of our series: &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Catching Up with Careers in Code&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;! We chat with founders, instructors/TAs, and students of the first CiC cohort about their experience and where they'd like to see the program go in the future.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Connect with Max&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="https://maxmatthe.ws" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;maxmatthe.ws&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/maxzmatthews/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/@teckno101" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="https://medium.maxmatthe.ws/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Medium&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Music&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This episode features &lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Mela/Mela_two" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;"Brain Power" by Mela&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; from the album &lt;em&gt;Mela two&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Follow Karin&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.kethorne.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;kethorne.com&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/kaythorne" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/karin_thorne/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="mailto:contact@kethorne.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;E-mail&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;JSWebb Development, LLC&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="https://jswebbdevelopment.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;jswebbdevelopment.com&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/JSWebb_Dev" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/jswebbdev/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="mailto:jswebbdevelopment@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;E-mail&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Follow Kelly&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="https://kell.dev/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;kell.dev&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/kellytoearth" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/kellytoearth/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="mailto:hello@kell.dev" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;E-mail&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Follow Salt City Code&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/saltcitycode" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/saltcitycode/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href="mailto:saltcitycode@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;E-mail&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;--- Special Guest: Max Matthews.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p><em><strong>I think a lot of people, when they hear &quot;hacker&quot;, they think cybersecurity or issues on their phone. Really, the original term &quot;hacker&quot; was someone who solved problems and just threw things together to fix something.</strong></em></p>
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<p>Hosts Karin Thorne and Kelly Corey chat with Max Matthews about his experience incorporating a business at age 16, what he considers to be the difference between a developer and an engineer, and what it&#39;s like to be on both sides of the self-taught/formal education divide in tech. We also dive into Max&#39;s stints working as an instructor for local tech bootcamps Start Fast Code and Careers in Code. </p>

<hr>

<p>This episode is part III of our series: <em><strong>Catching Up with Careers in Code</strong></em>! We chat with founders, instructors/TAs, and students of the first CiC cohort about their experience and where they&#39;d like to see the program go in the future.</p>

<hr>

<h3>Connect with Max</h3>

<p><strong><a href="https://maxmatthe.ws" rel="nofollow">maxmatthe.ws</a> | <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/maxzmatthews/" rel="nofollow">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/@teckno101" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a> | <a href="https://medium.maxmatthe.ws/" rel="nofollow">Medium</a></strong></p>

<hr>

<h3>Music</h3>

<p>This episode features <strong><a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Mela/Mela_two" rel="nofollow">&quot;Brain Power&quot; by Mela</a></strong> from the album <em>Mela two</em>.</p>

<hr>

<h3>Follow Karin</h3>

<p><strong><a href="http://www.kethorne.com/" rel="nofollow">kethorne.com</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/kaythorne" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/karin_thorne/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a> | <a href="mailto:contact@kethorne.com" rel="nofollow">E-mail</a></strong></p>

<hr>

<h3>JSWebb Development, LLC</h3>

<p><strong><a href="https://jswebbdevelopment.com/" rel="nofollow">jswebbdevelopment.com</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/JSWebb_Dev" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jswebbdev/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a> | <a href="mailto:jswebbdevelopment@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">E-mail</a></strong></p>

<hr>

<h3>Follow Kelly</h3>

<p><strong><a href="https://kell.dev/" rel="nofollow">kell.dev</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/kellytoearth" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/kellytoearth/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a> | <a href="mailto:hello@kell.dev" rel="nofollow">E-mail</a></strong></p>

<hr>

<h3>Follow Salt City Code</h3>

<p><strong><a href="https://twitter.com/saltcitycode" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/saltcitycode/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a> | <a href="mailto:saltcitycode@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">E-mail</a></strong></p>

<hr><p>Special Guest: Max Matthews.</p><p>Sponsored By:</p><ul><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://hackupstate.com/home">Hack Upstate</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://hackupstate.com/home">Special thanks to our sponsor Hack Upstate! Visit hackupstate.com to learn more about upcoming hackathons and get ready to code!</a></li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://syracusecoworks.com/">Syracuse CoWorks</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://syracusecoworks.com/">We'd like to thank Syracuse CoWorks for supporting Salt City Code! Their recording booth is perfect for all your podcast needs. Visit syracusecoworks.com for more information and apply for a membership now!</a></li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://hackroc.com/">Hack Upstate</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://hackroc.com/">Hack Upstate is proud to announce the first annual Hack Rochester event! It takes place April 18-19, 2020 at First Federal Plaza in Rochester, NY. Go to hackroc.com for more information on this brand new hackathon and register now!</a></li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://hackupstate.com/events/xv">Hack Upstate</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://hackupstate.com/events/xv">Are you ready to put your tech skills to the test? Hackers can form teams, build projects, and win prizes all within 24 hours at Hack Upstate XV on April 4-5, 2020 at The Tech Garden in Syracuse, NY. Click here to learn more about the event and sign up now!</a></li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://careersincode.org/">Hack Upstate</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://careersincode.org/">Interested in becoming a full-stack web developer? Sign up for the Cohort 2 waitlist and the mailing list at Careers in Code for information on upcoming events and job opportunities!</a></li></ul>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<blockquote>
<p><em><strong>I think a lot of people, when they hear &quot;hacker&quot;, they think cybersecurity or issues on their phone. Really, the original term &quot;hacker&quot; was someone who solved problems and just threw things together to fix something.</strong></em></p>
</blockquote>

<p>Hosts Karin Thorne and Kelly Corey chat with Max Matthews about his experience incorporating a business at age 16, what he considers to be the difference between a developer and an engineer, and what it&#39;s like to be on both sides of the self-taught/formal education divide in tech. We also dive into Max&#39;s stints working as an instructor for local tech bootcamps Start Fast Code and Careers in Code. </p>

<hr>

<p>This episode is part III of our series: <em><strong>Catching Up with Careers in Code</strong></em>! We chat with founders, instructors/TAs, and students of the first CiC cohort about their experience and where they&#39;d like to see the program go in the future.</p>

<hr>

<h3>Connect with Max</h3>

<p><strong><a href="https://maxmatthe.ws" rel="nofollow">maxmatthe.ws</a> | <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/maxzmatthews/" rel="nofollow">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/@teckno101" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a> | <a href="https://medium.maxmatthe.ws/" rel="nofollow">Medium</a></strong></p>

<hr>

<h3>Music</h3>

<p>This episode features <strong><a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Mela/Mela_two" rel="nofollow">&quot;Brain Power&quot; by Mela</a></strong> from the album <em>Mela two</em>.</p>

<hr>

<h3>Follow Karin</h3>

<p><strong><a href="http://www.kethorne.com/" rel="nofollow">kethorne.com</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/kaythorne" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/karin_thorne/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a> | <a href="mailto:contact@kethorne.com" rel="nofollow">E-mail</a></strong></p>

<hr>

<h3>JSWebb Development, LLC</h3>

<p><strong><a href="https://jswebbdevelopment.com/" rel="nofollow">jswebbdevelopment.com</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/JSWebb_Dev" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jswebbdev/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a> | <a href="mailto:jswebbdevelopment@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">E-mail</a></strong></p>

<hr>

<h3>Follow Kelly</h3>

<p><strong><a href="https://kell.dev/" rel="nofollow">kell.dev</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/kellytoearth" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/kellytoearth/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a> | <a href="mailto:hello@kell.dev" rel="nofollow">E-mail</a></strong></p>

<hr>

<h3>Follow Salt City Code</h3>

<p><strong><a href="https://twitter.com/saltcitycode" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/saltcitycode/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a> | <a href="mailto:saltcitycode@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">E-mail</a></strong></p>

<hr><p>Special Guest: Max Matthews.</p><p>Sponsored By:</p><ul><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://hackupstate.com/home">Hack Upstate</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://hackupstate.com/home">Special thanks to our sponsor Hack Upstate! Visit hackupstate.com to learn more about upcoming hackathons and get ready to code!</a></li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://syracusecoworks.com/">Syracuse CoWorks</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://syracusecoworks.com/">We'd like to thank Syracuse CoWorks for supporting Salt City Code! Their recording booth is perfect for all your podcast needs. Visit syracusecoworks.com for more information and apply for a membership now!</a></li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://hackroc.com/">Hack Upstate</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://hackroc.com/">Hack Upstate is proud to announce the first annual Hack Rochester event! It takes place April 18-19, 2020 at First Federal Plaza in Rochester, NY. Go to hackroc.com for more information on this brand new hackathon and register now!</a></li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://hackupstate.com/events/xv">Hack Upstate</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://hackupstate.com/events/xv">Are you ready to put your tech skills to the test? Hackers can form teams, build projects, and win prizes all within 24 hours at Hack Upstate XV on April 4-5, 2020 at The Tech Garden in Syracuse, NY. Click here to learn more about the event and sign up now!</a></li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://careersincode.org/">Hack Upstate</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://careersincode.org/">Interested in becoming a full-stack web developer? Sign up for the Cohort 2 waitlist and the mailing list at Careers in Code for information on upcoming events and job opportunities!</a></li></ul>]]>
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